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Paul Elliott
05-09-2014, 06:36 PM
Would you like to test your marine SSB? While VALIS is sailing from Friday Harbor Washington to San Francisco to prepare for the Pacific Cup we will be conducting a twice-daily SSB radio net. All boats are welcome to participate, especially those in the Pacific Cup, Singlehanded Transpac and Vic-Maui races. Here is the schedule, starting on or around June 2:

0800 PDT : SSB Channel 4A (4146 KHz USB)
0810 PDT : SSB Channel 8A (8294 KHz USB)

2000 PDT : 4A
2010 PDT : 8A

At the start of the net VALIS will identify on 4A (our callsign is WDB2898), and see if anyone is on the frequency. We will say hello and give signal reports. Ten minutes later we will switch to channel 8A, identify ourselves, and listen for anybody trying to contact us. We will bounce back and forth between 4A and 8A as needed. Depending on our position, on yours, and the propagation, one frequency may be better than the other.

It is very likely that in addition to VALIS there will be other boats participating as net control stations. This will be a great opportunity to test your radio system under real-world conditions. If you can't hear VALIS, do try to contact any other boats on the frequency. Feel free to talk amongst yourselves!

We are planning to start sailing south on June 1, but we will obviously wait if conditions are unfavorable. I expect to be on the water 5-10 days, and will run the Net until we arrive in San Francisco. You will be able to monitor our progress (or lack of same) on the VALIS blog: http://sailvalis.com/wordpress_1/

peter00
05-09-2014, 07:42 PM
Thank you Paul, we will be 4 days behind you and will try to bang the pipes at appropriate times

Mewes
05-12-2014, 08:08 AM
Nice. Traveling in Mexico several of us did the same thing. The practice really gave me a feel for tuning my rig, and a sense of the need for patience as conditions changed from day to day.

Lightspeed
05-15-2014, 06:54 PM
Lightspeed would like to try to listen in if I can figure out the right an antenna for a icom R-75 SSB receiver I picked up used for pennies on the dollar. Maybe you SSB guys (Paul, Brian, Mike & Ben) can help. It has two antenna connections, a 50 ohm with coaxial connection I think can go to a VHF antenna, and a 500 ohm connection with is really funky with two little pinch wire connectors like a speaker wire. I was hoping to connect the 500 ohm to Lightspeed’s insulated backstay (installed for a future SSB). I would like to use the icom R-75 to listen in on the Transpac SSB chatter and back up weather to the sat phone & email. Any suggestion from you SSB guys would be much appreciated…..Thanks…..Rick/Lightspeed

Paul Elliott
05-16-2014, 12:10 PM
Hi Rick,

You can try just running a ground wire (from a through-hull, or keel bolt, etc) to the radio's ground terminal, and a wire (any wire) from the backstay to the radio's antenna terminal. This will work, but it might be overly vulnerable to noise pick-up from your nav electronics and other noise sources.

It might be easier to clip onto one of the shroud chainplates, rather than the backstay. Sure, it's probably grounded through the mast, but for an untuned receiving antenna this may not be such a bad thing. If it's easy, try it.

Probably a better option is to use the 50 Ohm coax connector and run some coax (RG-58 is fine for this) out to the backstay. Connect the center conductor to the backstay, and the shield to a near-by ground. Without an antenna tuner the impedance match will be bad, but for receiving it will probably be good enough. If you get interference, putting some ferrite chokes on the coax might help.

Even before the SSB test net you can check your reception by tuning in WWV, WWVH, and the USCG weather broadcasts. Let me know if you need more details.

A note on receiving vs transmitting antennas. You will usually get a stronger received signal with a tuned antenna, but the atmospheric background noise often dominates the signal/noise equation. If you connect an antenna / wire / etc, and hear the background static get louder, any further antenna improvements may make no difference. I am using "usually" and "may" weasle-words here since there are other factors (directionality, local noise pickup, etc), that can complicate things, but this is usually the case. Also, as you go higher in frequency, the atmospheric noise tends to drop, so what works at 4MHz may not do as well at 16 MHz. For transmitting you want a tuned antenna so the transmitter puts out as much power as it can.

Lightspeed
05-16-2014, 05:31 PM
Much thanks Paul, I will experiment with the 50 ohm & RG-58 to backstay, and the 500 ohm & ground to chain plate, and report back. Just hoping it works better than the Kaito KA1103 we used in the 2012 PacCup where we had to use a human tuner to finding JUST the right place and angle to hold the unit and then FREEZE in place for 20 min to hear the reports...Rick/Lightspeed

BobJ
05-29-2014, 11:49 PM
In addition to the schedule Paul posted above, we'll try to talk w/each other tomorrow night (Friday, 5/30). RAGTIME! be anchored in the Bay off Pt. Richmond and VALIS will be at her dock near Friday Harbor. We'll try the following:

8A (8.294 mhz) at 2100
6A (6.224 mhz) at 2105
12A (12.353 mhz) at 2110

These are longer-distance frequencies so if you're local you'll probably skip right over RAGTIME! but you may be able to talk w/Paul aboard VALIS. For better results it's best to anchor out away from your marina.

WBChristie
06-01-2014, 09:14 PM
Listened in tonight and didn't hear anything. I'm hoping its because the net hasn't started yet! I see Valis is under way however.

BobJ
06-02-2014, 07:39 AM
I know his radio works. We had a good chat on all three frequencies Friday night.

Mewes
06-02-2014, 07:49 AM
Rick, did you get an antenna tuner?

Mewes
06-02-2014, 07:51 AM
Gary, are you joining the flotilla along the way south? Lucie

WBChristie
06-02-2014, 05:40 PM
Lucie I'm watching the weather and will leave when it looks ok... not sure what other boats will be passing by at that time. It would be fun to sail with others but not sure what their schedules are....

WBChristie
06-02-2014, 06:07 PM
First radio check will be tonight

brianb
06-02-2014, 10:10 PM
Hi Rick,

With receive only you won't need an antenna tuner, in fact the typical auto tuner, used with SSB transceivers, won't work as they require a transmit signal to tune. You really should do just fine tied to the back stay with wire, no coax required. However, sitting in a Marina your reception will really suffer, and in fact you may hear nothing because the noise level will be so high compared to the open sea.

A good place to test your radio in our area is off China Camp just North of the Brothers. Electrically this is very quiet. If you have doubt about your reception sail over in that area, turn off all the Nav gear just in case, and see if you can hear SSB signals. As Paul suggested start with WWV at 10 MHz and 15 MHz, they should be pretty loud depending on the time of day.

For an in the slip test you can try and copy the SF Overseas Air Traffic COntrol station located in Oakland. They have a killer signal in the Bay no matter where you are.
8843
10057
13354 kHz
If you cannot hear them as they speak to overseas flights over the Pacific.

Brian (on starboard)

Lightspeed
06-03-2014, 08:01 AM
Thanks Brian. I did try to listen in last night from home about 100 north of the bay with just a long wire on the IC R75 without any luck. Now with the rig back in I will try the backstay & as Paul suggested to also try the standing rigging....Thanks....Rick

brianb
06-03-2014, 08:48 AM
Hey Rick,

Your long wire should have at least picked up WWV at 10.000,000 MHz ? Always the best way to tell if things are working. If you can't hear this on a reasonable long wire (like at least 20 feet) try connecting a long wire and running another wire from the radio ground to a copper/metal water pipe (plastic - no joy). Worst case toss 20 or more feet of ground wire out the window with the antenna wire going up an the ground wire going down. IF that doesn't do it you may have a receiver issue. But test at 10 MHz first.