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Lightspeed
11-28-2015, 08:49 PM
Question Two..It is the 2016 Corinthian Race and this time your VHF is working fine. SI’s say the warning signal is at 11:00 and you’re in the E flag Division so your start is 11:15. You got a late start from the dock and as you are motoring to the race, you hear the race deck counting down the starting sequence over the VHF. It is obvious you’re going to be late for your start. For the next CA scratcher (SSS Board members excluded), when must you turn your motor off? A)11:00 B)11:10 C)11:11 or D) 5 min before you cross the start line...Cheers from the Race Deck!!

todd22123
11-28-2015, 09:30 PM
C

Racing A boat is racing from her preparatory signal until she finishes and clears the finishing line and marks or retires, or until the race committee signals a general recall, postponement or abandonment

pogen
11-28-2015, 09:33 PM
You can motor until the Prep signal flag is displayed alongside of your Division E flag.

If you woke up late or couldn't find your keys and you are 15 minutes late crossing your start line, well, it sucks to be you, you still shut down 4 min before your fleet start even if you are still 2 nm away.

I have crossed the startline by as much as 20 min after my fleet start due to wind/tide and poor boathandling, that doesn't let me use the engine...

BobJ
11-28-2015, 09:55 PM
How about if it's the Three Bridge? The only Prep is at 0855 and your boat rates 105? ;)

Philpott
11-28-2015, 10:35 PM
Hahahaha Rick is prolly rolling his eyes about now, trying to figure a way out of this circus.

Gamayun
11-28-2015, 10:39 PM
What if you start at the wrong time because the RC changes the starting order of the divisions just before the first warning ;)

TBF doesn't count -- that's why it's called a FIASCO!

C and E (of which the latter works only if there's not an automatic DQ for not starting within 15 min of your fleet's gun.)

BobJ
11-28-2015, 11:44 PM
Here's the answer for the Three Bridge (from its SI's):

ALTERNATE PROPULSION
Per RRS 42.3(i), a boat may use any means of propulsion until five minutes before its assigned start time.

Now back to your regularly-scheduled quiz. Oh I meant to ask: What if there was a postponement? (Hi Rick.)

Lightspeed
11-29-2015, 11:29 AM
Todd wins the scratcher. David actually schooled me on this one so I knew he would get it right. Bob, also win a scratcher because he not only anticipated the next question, he gave us the right answered! Gamayun, your are correct about the TBF and I hope to have some scratcher fun with that race a little later.

Let’s work on Bob’s next question. Race deck starts the race on time and C and D flags get off without a hitch. At 11:14 you hear two sounds from the race deck and see the AP over H flag. What just happened? Can you restart your motor? What happens with the C and D flags who have already started?

DaveH
11-29-2015, 12:05 PM
Races not started, including "your" start are postponed; further signals ashore.

coming out of postponement should be AP down; one minute; class warning... regardless of where the original sequence stopped.
so, yes, motor about until P flag is displayed [again] for your class. That would be approx 2 min after AP down, 1 minute after warning signal coming out of postponement.
perhaps repair to the bar and sort out this signals ashore business... :/

C&D are still racing, no change.

race committee better have a good reason for this, me thinks

BobJ
11-29-2015, 12:10 PM
Bonus question: Why do the SSS Classes/Flags start with "C" instead of "A"? (Old-timers can't answer.)

Lightspeed
11-29-2015, 01:25 PM
Bonus question: Why do the SSS Classes/Flags start with "C" instead of "A"? (Old-timers can't answer.)
Race Committee lost the A & B flags in a bar after a grueling TBF Race.

BobJ
11-29-2015, 01:49 PM
I'm told that's pretty close but the details are fuzzy.

pogen
11-29-2015, 02:50 PM
Here's a funny bit from the RRS


"...the protest committee is never a party."

Philpott
11-29-2015, 05:30 PM
race committee better have a good reason for this, me thinks

DaveH, are you still in Saudi Arabia? Rick, is it fair to play the game from another country? aren't there rules about foreign competition? Isn't that outside assistance?

DaveH
11-29-2015, 07:33 PM
DaveH, are you still in Saudi Arabia?

Hahaha - no I've been back for a week.

Lightspeed
11-29-2015, 07:44 PM
Hahaha - no I've been back for a week.

Thank goodness, I do not have a copy of the latest ISAF rules to make that call incase your where out of country.. ��

Critter
12-01-2015, 10:20 AM
B is a protest flag, A means diver down. Oops, maybe I count as an old timer.

BobJ
12-01-2015, 11:06 AM
Using those definitions, B is the Powder flag. (The R/C had to start with C because they were taking a powder when A and B should have started.) And we should all be flying D.

I bought a set of code flags at my favorite retail store because the bag was ripped and it was half-off. It's fun using them to "dress ship" for some events.

Lightspeed
12-01-2015, 07:28 PM
I bought a set of code flags at my favorite retail store because the bag was ripped and it was half-off. It's fun using them to "dress ship" for some events.

I think the RC may be in the market for some new flags, these are all I could find..1189

Dazzler
12-01-2015, 09:33 PM
I bought a set of code flags at my favorite retail store because the bag was ripped and it was half-off. It's fun using them to "dress ship" for some events.

So Bob, that's what was missing for the cruise to Redwood City. Your weren't really quite into cruise mode. You needed the flags! Or at least, you needed to "dress ship" when you got to the Sequoia YC. I wish you had, because I might have been reminded to breakout mine, that have never been out of the bag. A missed opportunity.... Next time?

Tom

BobJ
12-02-2015, 10:41 AM
Agreed Tom. The flags were aboard but I was afraid if I hoisted them the boat would look cluttered...

Thanks to STINK EYE's camera, RAGS is Latitude 38's December centerfold.

Philpott
12-02-2015, 08:52 PM
Agreed Tom. The flags were aboard but I was afraid if I hoisted them the boat would look cluttered...

Thanks to STINK EYE's camera, RAGS is Latitude 38's December centerfold. she is such a diva I'll bet she loves the attention. I finished paintig Dura Mater's bottom today and didn't have quite enough (@$208/can) for a complete second coat. I said I love you, honey, but you can't have everything. If you were Bob's boat you would experience extravagence. But you're my boat and we must live a more frugal, plebeian existence.

BobJ
12-02-2015, 09:37 PM
$208/quart IS a bit steep... oh, you meant per GALLON. What did you use, interior Latex? At least you sprayed it on, right? Please tell me you didn't use brushes. Well, wait a couple days for it to cure and you can have some bottom people long-board it. DM has bottom people, right?

Bottom people. (http://waterlinesystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/J88FinishesPricing.pdf)

While you were doing that I drove to Sausalito today to pick up RAGS' main and #3. They needed new telltails.