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dolfinbill
11-27-2017, 07:24 PM
My project for the day is an update of the SHTP race results to include 2014 and 2016. Let me know if (when) you find mistakes and I will try to fix them so we can keep a current SHTP Archive.

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Bill Meanley
Dolfin, Pacific Seacraft 37

Foolish
12-15-2017, 01:23 PM
18 Different Olson 30's. Still the best boat in the world! (completely unbiased opinion)

jamottep
07-15-2018, 05:18 PM
18 Different Olson 30's. Still the best boat in the world! (completely unbiased opinion)

Especially this year, which put another Olson 30 in the top 5!

pogen
07-16-2018, 10:16 AM
If dolfinbill or someone else could bring this up to date to 2018 and post a link in XLS format (not pdf) that would be very nice.

I don't think you can upload XLS directly to this forum for security/malware reasons. Please post a link or get in touch with me.

The old XLS is here: http://sfbaysss.org/shtp2016/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/SHTPCombinedResultsThru2014A.xls

Philpott
07-16-2018, 12:46 PM
I thought Foolish from Up North was doing that?

dolfinbill
07-16-2018, 05:05 PM
David, Don't know how to get the xls file to you. Sent you a PM asking for an email address.

dolfinbill

pogen
07-16-2018, 05:15 PM
David, Don't know how to get the xls file to you. Sent you a PM asking for an email address.

dolfinbill

Send a PM. It will be good to get it all archived now instead of digging around later.

This year's results are on Jibeset, or a post here:
http://sfbaysss.org/shtp2018/2018/07/16/shtp-2018-results-posted/

dolfinbill
07-17-2018, 10:04 AM
David, Just sent the xls file to your email address.

pogen
07-17-2018, 01:33 PM
I rolled up Bill's work with the 2018 results, posted to SHTP2018 site here:

http://sfbaysss.org/shtp2018/2018/07/17/forty-years-of-shtp-results/

Here are the top 20 monohulls of all time:

http://sfbaysss.org/shtp2018/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/top-20-mono-1024x473.jpg

dolfinbill
12-04-2018, 06:32 PM
I had nothing better to do last night so I dug a little deeper into the spreadsheet of the SHTP results through 2018 that David Nabors recently updated. In the 40 year history of the race 224 sailors have finished in monohulls, 56 of them multiple times. The champion of course is General Ken Roper with 13, then Barry Bristol, Greg Morris, Mark Deppe and Mike Jefferson with 5 finishes each. Two others have done it 4 times and twelve have finished 3 times. For the multihulls, 10 total have finished with Peter Hogg doing it 5 times.

As for type of boats, no surprise that Olson 30's lead with 22 finishes, then Harrier with 13, Moore 24's with 11, Cal 40's and those beautiful Crealock 37's with 10 each, Westsail 32's - 9, Express 27's - 7 and Santa Cruz 27's - 6. Otherwise just about any type of boat you can imagine has also finished one way of the other.

It's hard to compare finishing times because the conditions for every race are so different. Plus I'm only a cruiser and would probably make even more mistakes than I probably already have. Can't wait to see what kind of fleet we get next time.

DolfinBill

AZ Sailor
12-04-2018, 07:48 PM
Can't wait to see what kind of fleet we get next time.

DolfinBill

Great work, nice analysis, Bill. I can only add that by finishing, albeit DFL, Morning Star evened the record for Valiant 32's at 4 starts, 2 finishes. A shout out to Rob Tryon as the other finisher.

As for your curiosity about the "fleet we get next time", perhaps Dolfin has another one in her? Does Patty know?

Daydreamer
12-05-2018, 09:03 AM
"Does Patty know?"

As sailors amnesia creeps in and the beauty of the open ocean calls...

Thanks for the results!

mike cunningham
12-06-2018, 10:43 AM
I had nothing better to do last night so I dug a little deeper into the spreadsheet of the SHTP results through 2018 that David Nabors recently updated. In the 40 year history of the race 224 sailors have finished in monohulls, 56 of them multiple times. The champion of course is General Ken Roper with 13, then Barry Bristol, Greg Morris, Mark Deppe and Mike Jefferson with 5 finishes each. Two others have done it 4 times and twelve have finished 3 times. For the multihulls, 10 total have finished with Peter Hogg doing it 5 times.

As for type of boats, no surprise that Olson 30's lead with 22 finishes, then Harrier with 13, Moore 24's with 11, Cal 40's and those beautiful Crealock 37's with 10 each, Westsail 32's - 9, Express 27's - 7 and Santa Cruz 27's - 6. Otherwise just about any type of boat you can imagine has also finished one way of the other.

It's hard to compare finishing times because the conditions for every race are so different. Plus I'm only a cruiser and would probably make even more mistakes than I probably already have. Can't wait to see what kind of fleet we get next time.

DolfinBill

These are really interesting Bill. I am working on another little adventure, people interested in that activity have assembled a large # of stats on various aspects of the activity such as participant age spread, favorite gear, least favorite gear (generic or specific), how much fuel, how much total charging, budget, best food, greatest regret in terms of prep, most useful prep activity, physical condition at start and on and on. Most of this data was accumulated as a result of a detailed survey sent out to participants after they completed the activity. The survey evolves year to year as people request new questions/data be added, old deleted. In our case we could have a separate one for the sail back. Of course privacy is respected and folks can answer what they want to answer.

We should really consider something like this after each SHTP, perhaps Longpac too. The results would be quite interesting and might be of benefit to future participants. This would be really easy in our case where there are a limited number participants and we know how to contact them.

Any interest in collaborating with me on an initial question set? Memories are probably still fresh enough the class of 2018 where we could get good data set from them/us.

I shared a google doc with you (to your e-mail) containing an initial set of survey questions to start the ball rolling.

Gamayun
12-06-2018, 11:34 AM
Cool discussion thread and definitely interesting to see where this goes with further analysis! "We" often say that more people have gone to space than have raced in the SHTP. I wasn't sure if this had been fact checked, but a quick Google search found the following (which also hasn't been fact-checked lest you think I believe everything on the internet....).

As of November 6, 2013, a total of 536 people from 38 countries have gone into space according to the FAI guideline (543 people have qualified when including the US Department of Defense classification). Of the 536, three people completed only a sub-orbital flight, 533 people reached Earth orbit, 24 traveled beyond low Earth orbitand 12 walked on the Moon.

Even if the numbers above are off by 50%, it would still be an accurate analogy. More than TWICE as many people have gone into space as have raced solo to Kauai. I'll hook my belt buckle onto that statement ;)

Gamayun
12-06-2018, 11:39 AM
Oh veeeery interesting. Of the top 16 monohulls of all time, one quarter were from the 2018 race. Anyone want to analyze that result?

Gamayun
12-06-2018, 11:57 AM
And only 12 female skippers?! Are we missing some years in the spreadsheet?

AZ Sailor
12-06-2018, 11:59 AM
. . . . I am working on another little adventure, . . .

Is it a secret?

mike cunningham
12-06-2018, 01:29 PM
Is it a secret?

Yes, for now. Nothing all that big, but I don't want to place a marker just yet cause then I have to actually do it. Not sailing related but, in many ways, very similar.

dolfinbill
12-06-2018, 03:19 PM
And only 12 female skippers?! Are we missing some years in the spreadsheet?

Gee Carliane, that does put you in a very select group. And the way I see it, in two years you could be the only female in the history of the world to have done it twice.

Bill

dolfinbill
12-06-2018, 04:21 PM
We should really consider something like this after each SHTP, perhaps Longpac too. The results would be quite interesting and might be of benefit to future participants. This would be really easy in our case where there are a limited number participants and we know how to contact them.

Any interest in collaborating with me on an initial question set? Memories are probably still fresh enough the class of 2018 where we could get good data set from them/us.

I shared a google doc with you (to your e-mail) containing an initial set of survey questions to start the ball rolling.

Hi Mike, I think your idea is super and I have already made some additions to the initial set of survey questions you sent.

Bill

Philpott
12-06-2018, 04:48 PM
Gee Carliane, that does put you in a very select group. And the way I see it, in two years you could be the only female in the history of the world to have done it twice.

Bill

That is a most excellent point, Bill!

mike cunningham
12-06-2018, 05:02 PM
That is a most excellent point, Bill!

Well, that's that then.

Carliane, you are going in 2020!

We now have the first confirmed participant in the 2020 SHTP. And a new record will be established. Yea!!

BobJ
12-06-2018, 05:49 PM
The SHTP - it's like Lay's potato chips.

mike cunningham
12-06-2018, 07:50 PM
Hi Mike, I think your idea is super and I have already made some additions to the initial set of survey questions you sent.

Bill

Ok, cool. I am reaching out to the guy who did the surveys I was referring to. I want to see if he will share the methodology he used. Should have some feedback in a couple of days.

mike cunningham
12-09-2018, 01:40 PM
Ok, cool. I am reaching out to the guy who did the surveys I was referring to. I want to see if he will share the methodology he used. Should have some feedback in a couple of days.

Got feedback on survey tool and am working on initial template.

Gamayun
02-23-2019, 10:53 PM
Gee Carliane, that does put you in a very select group. And the way I see it, in two years you could be the only female in the history of the world to have done it twice.

Bill

I was looking for the spreadsheet from this feed and noticed your comment, Bill, and need to make a correction. Linda Newland was the first (and only) woman to have done the SHTP twice. Her former name was Linda Weber-Rettie. She didn't stop with that race either. She also sailed solo from SF to Kobe, Japan, and still holds the record (52 days) for a woman's solo transpacific crossing. And this was the whole ocean, too....not just half of one, as someone said to me once.

dolfinbill
02-26-2019, 06:55 PM
Linda Newland was the first (and only) woman to have done the SHTP twice.

I stand corrected. Oh well, you can still be the second but then you would probably have to sail all the way to New Zealand to cross the "whole ocean". I think the SHTP is fine just the way it is. By the way - with all your "admin control" power, maybe you can change the name of this thread to be "SHTP Results 1978 to Present".

DolfinBill

Gamayun
03-01-2019, 09:36 PM
By the way - with all your "admin control" power, maybe you can change the name of this thread to be "SHTP Results 1978 to Present".

DolfinBill

Ha, ha. It wasn't me that made the title change. Someone probably thought it best to not let me tinker with things like that.

I'm actually thinking of doing the PacCup next year with two women friends. Does that kinda count?

dolfinbill
03-02-2019, 04:32 PM
I'm actually thinking of doing the PacCup next year with two women friends. Does that kinda count?

That absolutely counts. I was thinking of just flying over to Kauai next year to shake everyones hand and pat them on the back. I know that doesn't count - unless maybe I go out on the Sea Squirrel at 3am.

Daydreamer
03-02-2019, 10:39 PM
What kind of nut finishes a race at 3 am!? , oh wait....

dolfinbill
03-07-2019, 04:58 PM
What kind of nut finishes a race at 3 am!? , oh wait....

We were all nuts, some of us just got lucky.

jamottep
10-04-2019, 12:18 PM
I rolled up Bill's work with the 2018 results, posted to SHTP2018 site here:

http://sfbaysss.org/shtp2018/2018/07/17/forty-years-of-shtp-results/


Something's not quite right here. If you compare these two files you will see different times for each racer:

Previous version: http://sfbaysss.org/shtp2016/past-races/
Newer version: http://sfbaysss.org/shtp2018/2018/07/17/forty-years-of-shtp-results/

For example, Stan Honey showed 07:07:29:41, and now is 08:07:29:41

Which one is right?