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    Quote Originally Posted by kotyara View Post
    Hmm... that sounded ominous somehow... is there a story behind it?
    Yes.

    But don't be too concerned. Jan would be crazy to tie up the race channel that much during a 3BF. Right Jan?

    I forgot an important one:

    10) As you look around, keep checking under the three bridges (even the far ones) for approaching SHIPS. In the Bay they always have the right of way. They'll get to you faster than you think so you'll need to alter course early if you're in/near a ship channel. If you have to start your engine to move out of their way, you have to drop out of the race, which is a bummer.

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    Ah, well, I guess I'm safe then. It's Nov 27, no races around that time

    Ships - yes, I've come across a couple while moving the boat from Richmond to Coyote Point. Scary stuff, especially the tugs with all that cable in between them.

    Just called South Beach - they're full unfortunately. Pier 39 is not answering the phone. Any other harbors close by where I might have some luck getting a slip for the night?

    Cheers,
    Alex.

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    Singing "Happy Birthday" is not what she has in mind.

    Jan, don't even THINK about it. I want to do a skippers' meeting mini-talk on the proper use of the VHF. You don't want to be "Exhibit A" do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobJ View Post
    Alex, this race is for skippers like you. Don't take it too seriously and have a blast. I missed last night's meeting but I'll bet it included the following:

    1) Stay well up current of the starting area until just before your start time. If you cross the line early you get a 20 minute penalty, which I did stern-first once! In other words, don't try to nail your start (that's for the one-design boats).

    2) Keep the basic right-of-way rules in mind. Starboard tack over port, leeward boat over windward, boat ahead over boat astern, etc. Assume the other boats don't know the rules so rule #1 is paramount = avoid contact. At marks, usually the boats closer to the mark have right-of-way. If you can keep moving by sailing around a stalled-out pack, you'll pick up many places in the race in minutes. Smile and wave as you go past all of them.

    3) Look around constantly, especially under the jib - boats seem to come out of nowhere.

    4) Stay out of the restricted areas or you'll be going home early - there are ten of them. Look at the SSI's and charlets and photos on the web site.

    5) Get ready early - put stuff in the cockpit you'll want during the race so you can stay on deck.

    6) Don't forget to check in.

    7) Strategy-wise, look for boats who have wind (heeling a bit and moving). If you see a bunch of boats standing straight up, don't follow them.

    8) Turn on your nav lights near the end of the afternoon - you might forget later.

    9) Take it easy, try to relax, and think of all those poor folks on the East Coast with their boats stuck on the hard . . .
    10) Count on a crowded start - be attentive and patient in picking your way through early morning fleet.

    11) Have a oar or paddle at the ready to keep a little headway and control before the start.

    12) If you can't or don't finish - radio in to committee as all boats need to be accounted for.

    13) Bring a cell phone so you can call folks that care you are going to late.

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    Singing??? Oh God, what have I gotten myself into...

    Ok, nevermind, got a slip at Pier 39. I hope the hangover won't be too bad on Sat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Jack View Post
    11) Have a oar or paddle at the ready to keep a little headway and control before the start.
    Um, I wouldn't row or paddle "to keep a little headway" - at least not right in front of the Race Committee. That's a no-no in a sailboat race.

    Which reminds me of a certain very well-known skipper who took a whiz off the transom while crossing the finish line. There's a photo sequence and everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobJ View Post
    Um, I wouldn't row or paddle "to keep a little headway" - at least not right in front of the Race Committee. That's a no-no in a sailboat race.

    Which reminds me of a certain very well-known skipper who took a whiz off the transom while crossing the finish line. There's a photo sequence and everything.
    True true... I suggest that you give yourself time and speed as you make your way to the start. Consider the flood tide and know the light morning winds - 150 stalled boats coming down on you is a challenging thing - make sure you smile big to those who could pass you pastries, coffee or a beer at such close quarters.
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    Great advice from everyone. I'd only add:

    1. be flexible, go where the wind goes. 7 or 8 years ago, the 3BF was my first race ever, and I went into it with a plan: counter clockwise, YBI first. There was an ebb current building as I approached the Bay Bridge, and the wind was from the south; I couldn't make any headway. I spent 3 hours tacking back and forth from one end of the bridge to the other, too stubborn to change tactics. Finally got to Red Rock after dark, in the rain, the only boat in sight, and called it in.

    2. don't give up, if there's any possibility that you could finish before the deadline. It's a long race, and there might be periods when it seems hopeless, but then a shift in the wind can make a world of difference. Hang in there!

    3. eat, drink, and pee when you can, don't wait until you have to.

    4. keep it friendly, try to win, but don't expect to. There are some seriously good racers out there, but luck can be a huge factor, too.

    I hope your first race experience is as good as mine was! And if that sounds funny coming from someone whose race didn't go so well, it's because it was a "big" experience, with lots of highs and lows. The run down from YBI to Red Rock, after finally getting under the bridge was just glorious, rain or not. The thrill of coming to a stop next to Red Rock and realizing there's a decimal point on the depth sounder -- 5.0 feet, not 50 -- was memorable. The long motor home in the dark, taking care to keep far enough off Berkeley to avoid the pier, gave me plenty of time to think about the day.

    Oh, one more thing: Another option for staying over is to anchor out at Angel Island. It's pretty close by, and free!

    Good luck!
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    Thank you very much everyone for great advice. I guess we'll see tomorrow if I listened well enough I'm all squared away at Pier 39, can't wait till morning. Somehow I'm sure it will be a day I'll remember for a long time...

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    Well, that was an experience, to say the least. That was the first time I've been in anything more that 10 knots of wind... apparently it was blowing around 25 at the finish line. All in all, it was really exciting, but damn scary at times. I definitely learned that I don't really know squat about sailing and would need more guidance and practice. But hey, it was a blast, literally

    Trying to "nail the start" wasn't a problem. I put the sails up too early and ended up crossing the line about 30min late.

    Bob, I took your advice and changed to the 150% during a windless spot on the way to Raccoon Straight, figuring it wasn't going to blow that hard. Boy, was I wrong. It was nice downwind, but upwind, on the way to Red Rock and later from Bay Bridge to the finish, I had to use both hands to pull on the tiller hard just to keep the boat from rounding up. On the last leg I had to let both sails out a bit, even thought that made the leach flutter, otherwise I couldn't keep the boat under control. Is there a trick to making this work, or is it plain sail change time?

    Speaking of which, I had big problems trying to get the genoa down after the finish. With the wind and the waves, the tiller pilot just couldn't keep the course (a few time it simply jumped off the peg), so I couldn't even come forward to pull the sail down. I ended up sailing home with the genoa in the water. So, how do you change (or douse) head sails in a blow?

    Also, how do you deal with autopilot in these conditions? Do you tie it down the tiller so it doesn't jump off the pin, or is it designed to do that so as not to be damaged? Is it a question of getting a stronger model (I have a Simrad TP22), or are they all pretty useless in these conditions? If so, how do you manage to leave the tiller if you need to do something else?

    The real fun came on the way home, as my engine pretty much died. It would start occasionally, run for a minute or two, then die again. I made it back to Coyote Point under sail hoping it wasn't as windy there, but it was blowing just as hard. The entrance to the harbor is a small channel with shoals on both sides and I wasn't brave (or stupid) enough to try sailing into that in those conditions in the dark. Ended up calling the Coast Guard, they came by and towed me in. They were really nice about it too. I was expecting an earful about rookie boaters, but they were very patient and understanding.

    Again, that really was a blast. I definitely gained a new appreciation for the difficulty and dangers of sailing. Hopefully will be better prepared next time, both me and the boat.

    Once again, thank you all for good advice, it helped a lot.

    Last, but not least, big thank you to all the organizers and race deck crew for managing to get 350 boats going despite a broken radio. It must have been hell in a basket there in the morning...

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