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    Default Issues with Corinthian race ASIs

    The Additional Race Instructions for the Corinthian Race describe two courses. I have a few questions and concerns about this change.

    1. There's very little difference between the two courses: going to Pt. Stuart instead of Little Harding makes a small change in direction in the first two legs and just slightly reduces the course length. Is this worth the (minor) additional manpower required on the deck to hoist the course flag, and more significantly is it worth giving shorthanded racers another flag to spot in what will probably be a large fleet, especially when the wind may be light at the start making flags hard to see?

    2. According to http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/18649.shtml, the light on Pt. Stuart buoy is Fl R 2.5s, not Iso R 6s. Please check this discrepancy.

    3. Getting all rules wonky, if you want to indicate the course at the Prep signal (instead of the Warning signal), the SIs are required to state that they modify RRS 27.1. I wouldn't be a stickler about this, but I thought I'd throw it in along with my other remarks.

    Thanks to the RC for putting this race on and for considering these comments.
    Max

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    Allen Cooper and Paul Disario are the new R/C co-chairs. I don't know if either of them read this Forum so you might try them via e-mail.

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    Thanks Bob. Done.

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    I agree with Max about getting things right signal and mark description wise. It used to be the Society could get away with blundering through, but lately it seems there's more competition, especially "Season Champion" competition, that brings out the sea lawyers more than in the past.

    I don't know about the two courses. There's always just been one so far as I can remember, except for a period when it wasn't the "Corinthian" race. I do like the idea of using Pt. Stuart instead of Little Harding for the first mark. That's almost the way the original course was set up. It used the now departed Pt. Knox Buoy as the first mark. Subbing the Pt. Stuart Buoy is, I think, a great idea. -- Pat

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    Just my two cents…Lightspeed just had the good fortune to win the Berkeley Midwinters Sat series with 17 possible courses at the 5 min flag. With the Corinthian only having two courses, at first, it seems like a gift..... However, in buoy racing (and with a crew of 12) the reason for the 17 options is to give the race committee the flexibility on race day to pick a good up and down wind racing course, and the flexibility of a long or short course for the conditions....In SSS, and any point to point racing I see a totally different scenario. I can see the need for two different course options for safety, time, and the conditions. The two options gives the SSS race committee that flexibility, however it only works if the second course is dramatically different, i.e. drop a mark (or two) to shorten and/or reverse the course for wind & current conditions…..I am racing either way and can’t thank the race committee enough for their work so and again just my two cents…Rick/Lightspeed

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    I don't get the two course option. What is the point in fixing something that isn't broken..... the Corinthian Race has been fine as is. If your going to have an alternative course it should be at least significantly different from the other not a slight change to a single mark change. Goes against the decades of the SSS using a single course for each race.

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