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    Default New Yacht Club in Town

    http://zephyryachtclub.com/
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    Hmmm, an online yacht club with annual dues of $50-75 that gives reciprocity to any other club. I didn't go through the whole list, but they say they have access to yacht clubs in the bay area such as CYC, EYC and OYC. Half Moon Bay had a membership category that allowed members who moved at least 50 miles away to have a substantially reduced annual fee, but it was meant for those who go cruising or work away from the area for a time, and are likely to return. It was so awkwardly worded that we had to change it because people who were not members were trying to join because they lived 50 miles away and then showing up at other clubs. It'll be interesting to see where this goes. This might also be why SSS members are now getting some grief about reciprocity at some clubs...

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    I'm sceptical that real brick and mortar clubs would honor this.


    Also, no officers, no regattas, no address other than a PO BOX.?

    They will take your money though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamayun View Post
    This might also be why SSS members are now getting some grief about reciprocity at some clubs...
    Really? Have we ever had reciprocity? I've never dared to try it.

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    I don't think SSS has reciprocity with anyone; we don't even have membership cards. When clubs host our races they are usually nice and let us dock overnight and use the facilities. But I don't think you can use the bar or dock at the CYC unless you are a member of another brick-and-mortar club.

    And I understand there are some snooty clubs like the St. Fancy where they don't have reciprocity with anyone other than a few others, the NYYC and the San Diego YC.

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    There is a difference between the Yacht Racing Association (YRA) and the Pacific Inter-club Yacht Association of Northern California (P.I.C.Y.A.). The SSS belongs to YRA, but not PICYA. Most traditional - and a few non-traditional yacht clubs belong to PICYA. PICYA membership does not automatically mean full reciprocation at all member clubs. It is, however, through PICYA that your "regular" yacht club membership card is recognized both locally and in other parts of the world. There are several PICYA clubs that are genuine "paper" clubs - a quick glance at the list of Member Clubs in the annual "Yachting Yearbook" reveals that; they probably don't have much reciprocity with most local PICYA clubs.

    As we all know, there are some yacht clubs that will accept SSS membership for food and drink or even guest berthing - and this has to be a verbal acceptance since the SSS has repeatedly decided to not have a membership card. And, as we all know there are many clubs that do not. Even among PICYA clubs there are varying levels of reciprocity and sometimes fees for docking with other PICYA clubs. Although it's bendable, the StFYC has a 50-mile exclusion zone for berthing, but a PICYA card will probably get you into the den for lunch.

    The "Yachting Yearbook" has a "center spread" with a list of all PICYA clubs and their facilities. It also has a check off list for "fee" and "reciprocity" for each member club.

    When it was first organized, SSS was not associated with either YRA nor PICYA; it thought of itself as an outlaw/independent organization that didn't need membership in either group. There were strong "anti" arguments. When SSS began to grow and add races to its schedule, it began to need yacht club race decks; early races were started from anchored members' boats or "just friendly" yacht clubs like the Oakland Y. C. So, SSS joined YRA - and since SSS was a genuine paper organization that didn't behave like yacht club, that took some doing. For a time SSS even sponsored a GGYC member so it could use the GGYC race deck.

    YRA membership opens the door for racing with YRA clubs and for using YRA member club race decks. It has been used for entering races in other parts of the country as well, but that's on a case-by-case basis.

    I'm skeptical that the new online yacht club has as much to offer. -- Pat

    When I was Commodore, SSS played around with the idea of also joining PICYA - an offer was made from PICYA for the SSS to join. But, SSS members did not see an advantage to doing that, and it would have required an increase in fees. It would not have guaranteed reciprocity since the SSS lacks everything a traditional yacht club offers, except a bunch of friendly members.

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    For what it is worth I know that several "snooty " yacht clubs that offer reciprocal privileges to to all yacht club members. San Diego and Santa Barbra for example do not care what kind of club you belong to as long as you have a card of some sort. They like the revenue.. In San Diego you use to get 1 or 2 free nights then paid $30/day. Now, since their renovation, it is $60/day although the last time we were there for 3 weeks because our engine was being worked on and could not find a much cheaper birth anywhere near main commercial area, they forgot to bill me.. Emery Cove Yacht Club is something like $15/year and their card works just fine at most places. King Harbor Yacht Club on the other hand carefully checked for reciprocal membership and declined me because South Beach does not have reciprocal birthing until i lied and said I belonged to St Frances. They did not ask to see my card. At Vallerta Yacht Club having a card gets you a nice discount on their excellent food. It is a jungle out there.

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