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    If you decide to bring it out early, check Marina Bay, the municipal harbor in Richmond. It's been the harbor of choice for visiting multihulls including Thebault's "Hydroptere," the Mod 70 "Orion" and I think the Irens "Paradox." With the way the harbor is arranged it tends to have more end ties. The rates are good and you'll be close to the central Bay.

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    Here's yet another power budget--based on charging with a diesel engine.

    http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexc...s-Splash-Guard
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    Yep, that's a start - but for a 2-3 week passage to Hawaii it really needs to take you all the way through to net charging time per day and fuel capacity.

    We also have a lot more loads due to the autopilot (if really racing) and communications requirements.

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    Thanks Bob for an enlightening talk last night.

    Here are the materials presented

    Energy Budget (pdf)
    http://sfbaysss.org/resource/shtp201...etSHTP2016.pdf

    Energy Budget (excel spreadsheet)
    http://sfbaysss.org/resource/shtp201...etSHTP2016.xls

    Presentation Slides:
    http://sfbaysss.org/resource/shtp201...obJohnston.pdf

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    Got back last night at 2 a.m. from my trip to Oakland for the Power Management seminar. The trip was well worth it. I have a fair working knowledge of boat electrical systems, but I expected to and did find a few nuggets of information that were helpful. More important to me, I got to meet and observe the buglighters in their natural environment for the first time. Nice bunch of folks.
    Prices in California for boat slips take my breath away. BobJ, the Marina Bay slip was about a $1000 monthly, with a $1000 deposit. Of course, being on the end of the dock ment that they would have to put me in an 82 foot slip, and if I had a large and long yacht, I would have thought that was reasonable.
    The clerk at the Marina Village Inn commented that the boat slips behind the hotel cost more to rent typically then housing rents are here. Talk about sticker shock.
    In any case, it was well done and was well presented by folks who took their task seriously. I will not be able to make many of the seminars, but definitely will be doing the weather and routing seminar if things go well and I can get the boat ready. Even met the grinch, er solosailor, who wants to rain on my erudder parade. Good guy, even though I disagree with him. Thanks to the folks that put it on.
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    Bob, thanks for doing the seminar. I leaned some stuff for sure.

    Regarding the engine topic. I had an engine failure at sea a couple years ago which turned out to be caused by small, solid paraffin like blobs forming in the fuel tank. Took a lot of troubleshooting to find them, basically tore the whole aft cabin apart to get at all the gozintas and gozoutas for fuel system and vent. Eventually cleared the prob temporarily by blowing into the fuel tank supply hose to dislodge the blockage. Installed a 6 inch fuel tank access plate and cleaned the thing thoroughly when I returned home.

    But what I wanted to mention is you are absolutely spot on about knowing how to bleed the system and, you need to have spare crush washers and even bleed screws/bolts on board. If it gets rough you could easily strip one the the screws or drop one into the "who knows where" . One more thing on Yanmar in particular. Some engineering genius thought it would be clever to put various size screws and bolts in the bleed locations. I have used a sharpie to mark the size of each bolt head so you don't fuss around with figuring it out under pressure. I think there are three bolts and one screw in the Yanmar bleed circuit - (2GM20F)

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    Yeah and on the 1GM, Yanmar put stainless steel bleed screws directly into the aluminum engine castings instead of into SS inserts. On my engine the screw on top of the primary filter is the biggest problem. You can only tighten it so much before the threads start to deform and then you need a new filter assembly. I have a spare but it's not something I'd want to replace underway. Dumb dumb dumb . . .

    The side point I was trying to make at the seminar was that I knew zilch about all this when I had my J/33 (e.g. my comment about never opening the engine box). The deal with this race is the self-sufficiency. You need to be able to do this stuff by having the parts, tools and know-how. It was tremendously satisfying to arrive in Hanalei Bay in 2006 having had NO problems with the boat. I probably did, but fixing them underway was so routine they weren't really problems.
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    New SSS'er Gregory Saramite took a great video of the Power Seminar - see link below. Headphones help to hear the comments from the audience. THANKS GREGORY!

    I got long-winded - this only shows the first two hours(!) - so you don't get to see KYNNTANA's yachty electrical panels at the end.

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Power_mgmt.mp4
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobJ View Post
    New SSS'er Gregory Saramite took a great video of the Power Seminar - see link below. Headphones help to hear the comments from the audience. THANKS GREGORY!

    I got long-winded - this only shows the first two hours(!) - so you don't get to see KYNNTANA's yachty electrical panels at the end.

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Power_mgmt.mp4
    Yeah, well that's good because I forgot to mention all the great electrical bullet-proofing tips that I had learned from Michael! (Though we remain in disagreement on one thing -- I still have a soft spot for Harbor Freight tools

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    Harbor Freight tools definitely have soft spots...

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