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    Because I'm in a mood today -
    regarding wool/yarn/buntline sail stops that will land in the water-
    see RRS 55

    just playing troll this morning .
    please continue

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveH View Post
    Because I'm in a mood today - regarding wool/yarn/buntline sail stops that will land in the water- see RRS 55 just playing troll this morning . please continue
    Oh, that one: TRASH DISPOSAL
    A competitor shall not intentionally put trash in the water. This rule
    applies at all times while afloat. The penalty for a breach of this rule
    may be less than disqualification.

    I'm interested in why the SSS never addresses this rule:

    APPENDIX H
    WEIGHING CLOTHING AND
    EQUIPMENT
    See rule 43. This appendix shall not be changed by sailing
    instructions or prescriptions of national authorities.
    H1 Items of clothing and equipment to be weighed shall be arranged on
    a rack. After being saturated in water the items shall be allowed to
    drain freely for one minute before being weighed. The rack must
    allow the items to hang as they would hang from clothes hangers, so
    as to allow the water to drain freely. Pockets that have drain-holes
    that cannot be closed shall be empty, but pockets or items that can
    hold water shall be full.
    H2 When the weight recorded exceeds the amount permitted, the
    competitor may rearrange the items on the rack and the member of
    the technical committee in charge shall again soak and weigh them.
    This procedure may be repeated a second time if the weight still
    exceeds the amount permitted.

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    Heh, heh - it appears the Commode D'Or isn't the only one "in a mood" today.

    Regarding the yarn - generally it's not the hoists that are the challenge.

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    "I'm interested in why the SSS never addresses this rule:

    APPENDIX H
    WEIGHING CLOTHING AND
    EQUIPMENT
    See rule 43. This appendix shall not be changed by sailing
    instructions or prescriptions of national authorities.
    H1 Items of clothing and equipment to be weighed shall be arranged on
    a rack. After being saturated in water the items shall be allowed to
    drain freely for one minute before being weighed. The rack must
    allow the items to hang as they would hang from clothes hangers, so
    as to allow the water to drain freely. Pockets that have drain-holes
    that cannot be closed shall be empty, but pockets or items that can
    hold water shall be full.
    H2 When the weight recorded exceeds the amount permitted, the
    competitor may rearrange the items on the rack and the member of
    the technical committee in charge shall again soak and weigh them.
    This procedure may be repeated a second time if the weight still
    exceeds the amount permitted."[/QUOTE]

    Great mental tactic !
    Pre-moisten your gear, that way you don't get depressed when your dry skivvies get wet! HA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daydreamer View Post
    Pre-moisten your gear, that way you don't get depressed when your dry skivvies get wet! HA!
    We have bottles with tops that glow in the dark for that.

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    Are you sure about the shackle using the reeving eye? I would think that just trying to raise the main using a reeving eye would break it. As for the knot, keep in mind, an eye splice is the best knot for such items and offers the best strength. From my reading every knot with diminish the strength of the line, some as much as 40%, and the eye splice is the best at retaining as much line strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanRhone View Post
    As for the knot, keep in mind, an eye splice is the best knot for such items and offers the best strength. From my reading every knot with diminish the strength of the line, some as much as 40%, and the eye splice is the best at retaining as much line strength.
    When using hi-tech line, even if a knot diminishes strength by 40%, the line is still so incredibly strong that it don't matter....just sayin.' For example, the BS of 1/4" Spectra is 9,700 pounds....reduced by 40% the BS is still 5,820 pounds, likely stronger than any piece of rigging on your boat.
    Last edited by sleddog; 04-06-2018 at 04:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobJ View Post
    Regarding the yarn - generally it's not the hoists that are the challenge.
    That's what I was thinking. I've never used wool or (horrors) rubber bands on a spinnaker, and I think mine is a fair bit bigger than Philippe's. I've never had big problems on the hoist ... jibes and douses are another story!

    I bought a used spinnaker once that had several Velcro strips sewn onto one of the luffs for banding. In a light-air Vallejo 2 start, the top strip failed to open, so I never used them again.
    Last edited by Critter; 04-07-2018 at 06:33 AM. Reason: typo

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    D-78

    Great feedback everyone, thank you! I have not used the spinnaker in strong wind and I've always hoisted deep downwind, with no problem. I'm now dousing using the letterbox drop method deep downwind again and have had no problems there either. Gybing, ah, yes ... That's something else.

    I'll try to snap a picture but agree with Skip, considering that the cover itself may account for a good chunk of the rope's strength, that may explain why the halyard held. Having seen what happens when the cover tears apart I'm going to cut a foot off to move clutch chafe somewhere else.

    One (other) thing I need to get better at is "les petits bobos". Most every time I go sailing I come back with a few scratches, cuts, bruises, knocks, you name it. They heal in time of course, but at sea it could become problematic. Most common offenders are skin rashes on the non skid deck (knuckles in particular) and scratches on the tibia (I still don't know how I get these). Maybe I'll use gloves again.

    Almost done with "party of one".
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    Can some share their experiences, techniques and cautions for handling spinnakers when the wind comes up? Who recommends socks? Do you do inside or outside jibes and when, why? Or do you douse, jibe the main and then reset the kite? Do you run halyard and tack back to the cockpit? Do you always letterbox the douse? Have you tried running the control lines from a sock back to the cockpit...Does this work?

    I thinking in the context of long runs, day after day, on the open ocean.

    Inquiring minds want to know.
    Last edited by The Smokester; 04-07-2018 at 08:42 AM.

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