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    Another update ... I've heard again that there may be a Class40 round the world race. There may be official developments in 6-9 months. I'm going to wait things out and won't look for a boat now. Or more specifically I'm going to focus on finding a used Pogo 40S3 that I can afford.

    I'm also going to try to find ways to race on these boats. There's in fact a boat available for charter for the Transat Jacques Vabre 2019, for $40,000. Would anyone be interested?

    Still looking for a dinghy too ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamottep View Post
    Hi Greg, would you be open to meet for a chat?
    Hey Greg ... Responded to your PM ...

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    I reached out to a few Class40 owners who have put their boat up for charter. So far I've only exchanged info with one guy. In short it'd be about €100,000 minimum as he wants €60,000 just for the boat (for the whole season). So that's out.
    I need to call another guy who wants to talk; his advertised price seemed more within reach.

    I think I may still just get myself a good old boat and carry on with the initial plan. I'm considering Santa Cruz 40, Olson 40, older Pogo 40. Any other suggestions?

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    Another thought would be a J/35. Fast and sea-kindly. Headroom is only 6-1, I think. Someone started out from the East Coast in the late 80's to go around the world, but fell asleep and ended up on. a reef on Bermuda. Plenty around for between 20 and 40k, and shouldn't be too hard to fit with water ballast and w.t. bulkheads. There is also the Express 37, but I don't know if it's up to the task. Hard to believe the Olson 40 would be up for it.

    Out of your price range and on the wrong coast, but this looks like a good deal for someone who wants to truck across oceans: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/199...ix-55-2714805/

    This one could be a steal or a nightmare: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...s-j46-3489782/

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    Yes, out of my price range; and I'm not experienced enough to recover a boat that's been hammered by a hurricane.

    The J35 is too short. I really would prefer to maximize LWL for upwind performance, since that's when it's going to matter most likely (rounding Cape Horn westbound).

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    I looked at the Freya 39 in Brisbane. Pictures here:
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/EHp246Y78aDaimAD9
    I can't say it's in good shape. It's possible it's mostly cosmetics but ...
    I may also check the one in Morro Bay tomorrow.
    I discussed boat speed with the owner of that boat. My guess is for half of the trip I'll be running. At 10 kts of wind I'd be doing 4.5kts. At 15 maybe 7-8 kts.
    One thing I'm not sure I like is all the stuff in the boat. I liked with Double Espresso that I could see the hull. With the Freya 39 you can't even get to the bilge, as it's at the bottom of the keel, where a sump pump is working.

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    That's a whole bunch of work! As I understand it some Freyas were not factory finshed and this appears to be one. I especially like the empty rum bottle behind the latest project. Curious to see what you find out in Morro Bay. Definitely a trade off having flooring and extra cabinetry hiding the hull but then consider nights like tonight and ask yourself fin or full keel?
    Thanks for the update.

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    And, after a long drive in the rain and wind, the Freya 39 in Morro Bay, in better shape: https://photos.app.goo.gl/RTBccQiCNFsxsWtQA
    Still everything is old.

    I think I've identified what is bugging me about these "good old boats": it's all the stuff inside. I think I would go nuts stuck in 5 kts of wind seeing all that woodwork inside and would throw it out in anger :-) Remember, I threw my water away on the way to Hawaii when I was too slow ... Well, not everything, and I still had almost 10 gallons when I made landfall. The thing that stuck with me towards the end of the trip to Hanalei Bay is that, even though I tried to bring as little as possible, I thought there was just too much stuff around. Maybe it would bug me less if it was not in plain sight, like in cabinets. Oh, wait ...

    The owner today made a comment about his boat being fast in light wind and I asked him to clarify. He said he was doing 4.5 kts in 5 kts of wind, that doesn't seem right now that I put this in writing; so let's say it was apparent wind. Anyways, the fun part was that he said he did this by having his spinnaker to leeward (read: pole to leeward), genoa out to windward, and 3 reefs in the main, centered, or something like that: https://goo.gl/images/Lt1nqW

    Maybe I should find a Freya 39, Fast Passage 39, Valiant 40 that's been gutted, put a couple hammocks in and go ... A Fast Passage 39 finished the BOC 82-83 in 209 days, the course was 27,100 nm, and the average speed on course was 5.40 kts. That is is a real life value I can use for planning.That's probably more days at sea than I was hoping for. On a similar course the Open 40 Spirit of Yukoh took 180 days, for an avg spd on course of 6.27.

    I wonder if these 3 boat designs have been compared for performance in real life. Who wins? 0.1 kts means a lot on such a long route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamottep View Post
    I wonder if these 3 boat designs have been compared for performance in real life. Who wins? 0.1 kts means a lot on such a long route.
    Oh and the Fairweather Mariner F39 (aka Westsail 39):
    https://www.sailblogs.com/member/thewanderer/13442
    https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...r-f39-3254197/

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    Philippe, Have you considered this one?

    39-FT WYLIE MASTHEAD SLOOP, 1984
    Richmond Yacht Club $20,000-asking/obo
    'Marishanna'. Wylie 39 with gaudy racing record, Day-sailing layout. Comes with full offshore kit. Built by Westerly Marine. Sweet sailing masthead sloop.
    (415) 383-0949

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