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    Default Alameda Marina - pretty much your last chance to say anything

    If you don't like the idea of essentially destroying the Alameda Marina land operations, this is your penultimate chance to speak up. Crunch Time is tomorrow, the 29th. Have you groused about it but not done anything?. Here's your next-to-last chance to speak up. What the planning board recommends to the City Council will almost certainly be approved. The City Council meeting will be the LAST chance, but by then it's a done-deal. It's been over a two-year process. If you have an opinion, but just haven't had time to do anything, NOW is the time to do SOMETHING.

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    Call to action- by Tuesday May 29th Alameda Planning Board Decision on
    Alameda Marina


    Greetings from Save Alameda’s Working Waterfront (SAWW) the original
    citizen’s volunteer group founded in Nov 2015 in response to Bay West
    announced plans for Alameda Marina. We are low budget, low tech but
    energetic and passionately involved www.sawwaction.org and could use
    your support at this critical time by attending the May 29th Planning
    Board decision meeting and sending in email to oppose the proposal.
    Details follow.

    Bay West has a major campaign asking people to email City of Alameda
    Government in favor of their Master Plan before this May 29th Planning
    Board meeting to decide on their proposed plan. Don’t be confused with
    their new slogan that includes “working”.

    We are asking you to do the same and provide for your convenience a
    template form letter below to oppose the most recent proposal.

    Please send email before May 29th Planning Board Meeting on the
    Alameda Marina proposal. Attend if possible and sign up to speak (or
    signup to cede time to SAWW).

    City Calendar
    https://alameda.legistar.com/Meeting...9BC688&Search=

    Details
    https://alameda.legistar.com/Legisla...tions=&Search=
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    For those wishing to write the City Council BEFORE TOMORROW NIGHTS MEETING here is a sample letter from SAWW - please revise as you desire:

    This letter is
    available at https://app.box.com/s/38sz3lh72jl8tsdxy0ltx8wjp2hige5v

    Form letter to send (revise if you desire) >>>


    TO:
    rcurtis@alamedaca.gov, jcavanaugh@alamedaca.gov,
    dmitchell@alamedaca.gov, ssullivan@alamedaca.gov,
    ateague@alamedaca.gov, nmcpeak@alamedaca.gov, spencer@alamedaca.gov,
    mvella@alamedaca.gov, fmatarrese@alamedaca.gov,
    mezzyashcraft@alamedaca.gov, joddie@alamedaca.gov,
    lweisiger@alamedaca.gov, lwarmerdam@alamedaca.gov,
    manager@alamedaca.gov, jkern@alamedaca.gov, info@sawwaction.org

    Subject:
    No to Bay West Proposal at Alameda Marina

    I am opposed to the BAY WEST Proposal for Alameda Marina (attachment
    A1 and
    https://alameda.legistar.com/Legisla...ptions=&Search ). Alameda Marina is a regional asset and an essential part of the greater boating community
    ecosystem.

    1- The boatyard proposal is inadequate to support the existing boating
    community let alone growth with additional marinas along the estuary
    and regionally. We need a functional equivalent to Svendsen’s with
    travel lift haul outs and the elevator for floating homes and boats
    too large for the travel lift. Boatyards are disappearing at an
    alarming rate and are nearly impossible to regain. Do it yourself
    boatyards such as Svendsen's are even rarer and help keep water access
    affordable.

    2- The mast-up dry storage area is inadequate in space size and
    quantity. The logistics of the proposed layout do not seem feasible
    from an operational point of view- especially during surge times of
    race days, weekends, and holidays. Mast up dry storage is more
    environmentally friendly and more affordable. The at the location on
    the west end shown in the plan is extremely shallow and would require
    massive dredging efforts with possible toxic environmental issues due
    to previous use as military shipyard. The logistics of boats queuing
    up on land and on water are challenging, at best, in the proposal.
    These logistics issues are readily addressed by the existing 3 ton
    hoist area and the previous 2 ton hoist area with an inbound and
    outbound lane to the hoists and large adjacent side tie docks. The dry
    storage mast up area should be comparable to the capability of mid
    2015 with 2 hoists (2 ton and 3 ton). For improved logistics each
    should be 3 ton capacity.

    3-Marina Wet berth vehicle parking quantity and logistics seem
    inadequate to support the marina use. It is common for boaters to
    transport boating gear, food, foul weather clothing to/from boat and
    vehicle.

    Thanks for your attention and this opportunity to support affordable
    water access
    (Your name)

    << End form letter



    *Contacts to be included in mailings:
    Cut and paste in your email

    TO:
    rcurtis@alamedaca.gov, jcavanaugh@alamedaca.gov,
    dmitchell@alamedaca.gov, ssullivan@alamedaca.gov,
    ateague@alamedaca.gov, nmcpeak@alamedaca.gov, spencer@alamedaca.gov,,
    mvella@alamedaca.gov, fmatarrese@alamedaca.gov,
    mezzyashcraft@alamedaca.gov, joddie@alamedaca.gov,
    lweisiger@alamedaca.gov, lwarmerdam@alamedaca.gov,
    manager@alamedaca.gov, jkern@alamedaca.gov, info@sawwaction.org

    Planning Board
    David Burton Recused (working for the developer)
    Ronald Curtis rcurtis@alamedaca.gov
    Jeffrey Cavanaugh jcavanaugh@alamedaca.gov
    David Mitchell dmitchell@alamedaca.gov
    Sandy Sullivan ssullivan@alamedaca.gov
    Alan Teague ateague@alamedaca.gov
    Nancy McPeak (clerk) nmcpeak@alamedaca.gov (include for public record)
    One seat is vacant

    City Council
    Mayor Trish Spencer spencer@alamedaca.gov
    Vice Mayor Melia Vella mvella@alamedaca.gov
    Council Member Frank Matarrese fmatarrese@alamedaca.gov
    Council Member Marlyn Ashcraft mezzyashcraft@alamedaca.gov
    Council Member Jim Oddie joddie@alamedaca.gov

    City Clerk Lara Weisiger lweisiger@alamedaca.gov
    Acting City Manager Liz Warmerdam lwarmerdam@alamedaca.gov or
    manager@alamedaca.gov City Attorney Janet Kern jkern@alamedaca.gov

    SAWW info@sawwaction.org

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    I am opposed to the BAY WEST Proposal for Alameda Marina. The Alameda Marina is a Bay-Area-Wide asset and the businesses housed there are vital to the greater Bay Area boating community. The Marina provides a site where scores of jobs are available for local residents. There are other places on Alameda where housing can be built.

    The boatyard proposal is inadequate to support the existing boating community. Svendsens Marine was a prosperous and thriving business until poisonous relations with the developer forced the Svendsens family to sell. Bay Ship has closed operations simply because working with Bay West and Pacific Shops is so toxic. DOER Marine has already been forced out. The Bay Area boating community needs a yard t at the Marina with travel lift and the elevator as it currently exists. Jobs have been lost to Svendsens being sold and the resulting closing of the yard. Those jobs should come back.

    The proposed dry storage area is preposterously inadequate in every way. The number of dry storage spaces is a fraction of what is needed, but worse, the size of the spaces is so tiny that almost no boats currently in storage there will be able to continue. The Alameda Marina has the only...THE ONLY remaining three ton hoist between Los Angeles and Portland. The proposed plan will remove. it. Dry boat storage is more environmentally friendly and more affordable than in-water storage. Bay Wests plan may look good to someone who doesn't launch a boat, but it is in fact completely, preposterously inadequate.

    The entire issue of parking and transportation to the Marina and within the Marina, both for boaters and residents is wildly underestimated. NO provision is made for boat-owner parking. None.

    Until the current owner made it impossible for me to dry-store my boat at the Alameda Marina, I was a regular visitor to Alameda. I bought supplies at Pagano's Hardware, bought lunches at Delis on the island, had breakfast at restaurants on the island. I filled up my truck gas tank at the Chevron on Buena Vista a hundred times, spent money at the West Marine Store on Alameda. Since the ongoing destruction of the Alameda Marina Environment has begun, I have yet to be back to the island. I'm spending my money elsewhere. I'm not the only person who has done this. When you vote, you could change that, and bring business and jobs back to Alameda..

    I strongly advise you to NOT APPROVE Bay Wests Master Plan for the Alameda Marina.

    Alan Hebert
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    Seems there was a typo in the original. The mayor should be tspencer@alamedaca.gov

    They updated here https://app.box.com/s/38sz3lh72jl8tsdxy0ltx8wjp2hige5v


    Quote Originally Posted by DaveH View Post
    For those wishing to write the City Council BEFORE TOMORROW NIGHTS MEETING here is a sample letter from SAWW - please revise as you desire:

    This letter is
    available at https://app.box.com/s/38sz3lh72jl8tsdxy0ltx8wjp2hige5v

    Form letter to send (revise if you desire) >>>


    TO:
    rcurtis@alamedaca.gov, jcavanaugh@alamedaca.gov,
    dmitchell@alamedaca.gov, ssullivan@alamedaca.gov,
    ateague@alamedaca.gov, nmcpeak@alamedaca.gov, spencer@alamedaca.gov,
    mvella@alamedaca.gov, fmatarrese@alamedaca.gov,
    mezzyashcraft@alamedaca.gov, joddie@alamedaca.gov,
    lweisiger@alamedaca.gov, lwarmerdam@alamedaca.gov,
    manager@alamedaca.gov, jkern@alamedaca.gov, info@sawwaction.org

    Subject:
    No to Bay West Proposal at Alameda Marina

    I am opposed to the BAY WEST Proposal for Alameda Marina (attachment
    A1 and
    https://alameda.legistar.com/Legisla...ptions=&Search ). Alameda Marina is a regional asset and an essential part of the greater boating community
    ecosystem.

    1- The boatyard proposal is inadequate to support the existing boating
    community let alone growth with additional marinas along the estuary
    and regionally. We need a functional equivalent to Svendsen’s with
    travel lift haul outs and the elevator for floating homes and boats
    too large for the travel lift. Boatyards are disappearing at an
    alarming rate and are nearly impossible to regain. Do it yourself
    boatyards such as Svendsen's are even rarer and help keep water access
    affordable.

    2- The mast-up dry storage area is inadequate in space size and
    quantity. The logistics of the proposed layout do not seem feasible
    from an operational point of view- especially during surge times of
    race days, weekends, and holidays. Mast up dry storage is more
    environmentally friendly and more affordable. The at the location on
    the west end shown in the plan is extremely shallow and would require
    massive dredging efforts with possible toxic environmental issues due
    to previous use as military shipyard. The logistics of boats queuing
    up on land and on water are challenging, at best, in the proposal.
    These logistics issues are readily addressed by the existing 3 ton
    hoist area and the previous 2 ton hoist area with an inbound and
    outbound lane to the hoists and large adjacent side tie docks. The dry
    storage mast up area should be comparable to the capability of mid
    2015 with 2 hoists (2 ton and 3 ton). For improved logistics each
    should be 3 ton capacity.

    3-Marina Wet berth vehicle parking quantity and logistics seem
    inadequate to support the marina use. It is common for boaters to
    transport boating gear, food, foul weather clothing to/from boat and
    vehicle.

    Thanks for your attention and this opportunity to support affordable
    water access
    (Your name)

    << End form letter



    *Contacts to be included in mailings:
    Cut and paste in your email

    TO:
    rcurtis@alamedaca.gov, jcavanaugh@alamedaca.gov,
    dmitchell@alamedaca.gov, ssullivan@alamedaca.gov,
    ateague@alamedaca.gov, nmcpeak@alamedaca.gov, spencer@alamedaca.gov,,
    mvella@alamedaca.gov, fmatarrese@alamedaca.gov,
    mezzyashcraft@alamedaca.gov, joddie@alamedaca.gov,
    lweisiger@alamedaca.gov, lwarmerdam@alamedaca.gov,
    manager@alamedaca.gov, jkern@alamedaca.gov, info@sawwaction.org

    Planning Board
    David Burton Recused (working for the developer)
    Ronald Curtis rcurtis@alamedaca.gov
    Jeffrey Cavanaugh jcavanaugh@alamedaca.gov
    David Mitchell dmitchell@alamedaca.gov
    Sandy Sullivan ssullivan@alamedaca.gov
    Alan Teague ateague@alamedaca.gov
    Nancy McPeak (clerk) nmcpeak@alamedaca.gov (include for public record)
    One seat is vacant

    City Council
    Mayor Trish Spencer spencer@alamedaca.gov
    Vice Mayor Melia Vella mvella@alamedaca.gov
    Council Member Frank Matarrese fmatarrese@alamedaca.gov
    Council Member Marlyn Ashcraft mezzyashcraft@alamedaca.gov
    Council Member Jim Oddie joddie@alamedaca.gov

    City Clerk Lara Weisiger lweisiger@alamedaca.gov
    Acting City Manager Liz Warmerdam lwarmerdam@alamedaca.gov or
    manager@alamedaca.gov City Attorney Janet Kern jkern@alamedaca.gov

    SAWW info@sawwaction.org

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    Release from Becca Perata, whom I won't associate with as the one time I met her I was pretty sure I needed to take a shower, afterwards, even though she was three feet away...

    Alameda Planning Board Unanimously Moves Forward Redevelopment Plans for Alameda Marina

    Last night, in a 5-0 vote, the Alameda Planning Board unanimously approved the Alameda Marina master plan and adopted the EIR, moving the proposal forward to city council in July.

    Thank you to the many who came out to share your voice and show support. After more than two years of community feedback and compromise, together with our city leaders and staff, we crafted a sustainable plan to create a Waterfront that Works!

    Please visit our website to stay informed.

    Thank you,
    Becca Perata for Alameda Marina

    ===================================

    While pretty discouraging, this is not a surprise. The Planning Board is strongly pro-development. Now the discussion goes to the City Council. It will be "difficult" for the City Council to go against the recommendations of the Planning Board, but they can do it. The Council is evenly split between yes's and no's with two swing votes that could go either way.

    There is still the entire permitting process that must be done, of course.
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    ON Tuesday night, after 38 speakers and at about 12:40 AM (technically Wednesday morning) the Alameda City Council approved the Master Plan for the Alameda Marina with a few admendments. Frank Mattarese stood firm and demanded that some language that would allow "maker spaces" and "art studios" in the dedicated "commercial Core" reserved for marine commercial business space be removed.

    The proposal won a huge wave of support from the crowd, and while I would wish for a LOT more dry storage space, considering the city budget climate, heavy pressure from affordable housing groups and so on, this is about the best that could be hoped for. It's a far, far cry from Polands scorched earth proposal of three years ago. I would wish for 20% more boatyard space, but the fact that a boatyard is *extremely* high priority to be on-site is a miracle. It's not REQUIRED. There's a 6-month period where the City and Bay West are supposed to conduct a search to find an operator to run a boatyard at the Marina. The specifics of some of the layout, drainage, water processing and even one or two buildings that could be built, will depend on input from the boatyard operator. Here's the bitch. They have 6 months to identify operators who are interested and have experience running boatyards. After that, they have 6 months to pin down an actual operator. If they can't find candidates, the developer can go back to the City and request a major change like...."no Boatyard". The City could say "no...sorry, start over" or they could cave in and let the project go without a boatyard anyway.

    The dry storage is set for 60 slots. I would wish for more like 100, but 60 is better than none. 760 housing units are planned; 50% rental, 50% to be sold. NO single-family homes are in the site, it's all apartments, condos and townhomes. The retail and marina parking issues are partially resolved with a huge lot of 350 spaces. I would wish for something more long the lines of a 200-space lot at one end and a 150-space lot at the other end, but at least there's parking. Two and a half years ago, there was NO parking, even a year ago NO parking. If the dry storage needs are enormous and parking needs not-so-much, a chain link fence can be moved and the lot can be re-striped.

    25 million bucks goes towards rebuilding the seawall, which obvious is a major disaster waiting to happen.

    There was an asinine idea put out about a "concierge" boat service function to operate out of the marina. Need a haul-out? The concierge truck will pick up your boat and haul it to a yard somewhere else. It's asinine, but there you go. Initially, if the dry-storage needs are not enough, the marina will provide "float-a-bote" equipped slips at the same price as a regular slip. Never mind that your keel and rudder are still in the water, and those things need repair all the time, but **whatever**.

    The final conclusion is not ideal, from my perspective but it would be worse. Build-out is anticipated to start, if I remember rightly, in about 4 years. Finish date is about 10 years out. It'll be done in three phases. As each phase is completed, the seawall gets fixed in that area. The last phase is 7-10 years out, will build over where the current dry storage is located. so you tenants of the Alameda Marina dry storage have a good long while before your hoist and lot will go away.

    BCDC and Army Corps of Engineers permitting is in the works, but has not been anywhere near completed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanH View Post
    ON Tuesday night, after 38 speakers and at about 12:40 AM (technically Wednesday morning) the Alameda City Council approved the Master Plan for the Alameda Marina with a few admendments. Frank Mattarese stood firm and demanded that some language that would allow "maker spaces" and "art studios" in the dedicated "commercial Core" reserved for marine commercial business space be removed.

    The proposal won a huge wave of support from the crowd, and while I would wish for a LOT more dry storage space, considering the city budget climate, heavy pressure from affordable housing groups and so on, this is about the best that could be hoped for. It's a far, far cry from Polands scorched earth proposal of three years ago. I would wish for 20% more boatyard space, but the fact that a boatyard is *extremely* high priority to be on-site is a miracle. It's not REQUIRED. There's a 6-month period where the City and Bay West are supposed to conduct a search to find an operator to run a boatyard at the Marina. The specifics of some of the layout, drainage, water processing and even one or two buildings that could be built, will depend on input from the boatyard operator. Here's the bitch. They have 6 months to identify operators who are interested and have experience running boatyards. After that, they have 6 months to pin down an actual operator. If they can't find candidates, the developer can go back to the City and request a major change like...."no Boatyard". The City could say "no...sorry, start over" or they could cave in and let the project go without a boatyard anyway.

    The dry storage is set for 60 slots. I would wish for more like 100, but 60 is better than none. 760 housing units are planned; 50% rental, 50% to be sold. NO single-family homes are in the site, it's all apartments, condos and townhomes. The retail and marina parking issues are partially resolved with a huge lot of 350 spaces. I would wish for something more long the lines of a 200-space lot at one end and a 150-space lot at the other end, but at least there's parking. Two and a half years ago, there was NO parking, even a year ago NO parking. If the dry storage needs are enormous and parking needs not-so-much, a chain link fence can be moved and the lot can be re-striped.

    25 million bucks goes towards rebuilding the seawall, which obvious is a major disaster waiting to happen.

    There was an asinine idea put out about a "concierge" boat service function to operate out of the marina. Need a haul-out? The concierge truck will pick up your boat and haul it to a yard somewhere else. It's asinine, but there you go. Initially, if the dry-storage needs are not enough, the marina will provide "float-a-bote" equipped slips at the same price as a regular slip. Never mind that your keel and rudder are still in the water, and those things need repair all the time, but **whatever**.

    The final conclusion is not ideal, from my perspective but it would be worse. Build-out is anticipated to start, if I remember rightly, in about 4 years. Finish date is about 10 years out. It'll be done in three phases. As each phase is completed, the seawall gets fixed in that area. The last phase is 7-10 years out, will build over where the current dry storage is located. so you tenants of the Alameda Marina dry storage have a good long while before your hoist and lot will go away.

    BCDC and Army Corps of Engineers permitting is in the works, but has not been anywhere near completed.
    Nice summary and thanks for showing up and going on the record
    "Interested Party"

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