View Poll Results: Should Surprise! keep her mizzen?

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  • Yes!

    9 81.82%
  • Put lawn chairs back there.

    2 18.18%
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Thread: Surprise!'s Mizzen Poll

  1. #1
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    Default Surprise!'s Mizzen Poll

    Sailing gurus say that Surprise!'s mizzen is pretty useless. Upwind it lives in the bad air from the main, especially when the traveler is pulled up a bit, and when it's full it's only adding to the weather helm. There are non-racing benefits, the major one being that it adds to the boat's coolness.

    But a couple friends have suggested I pull it out and put lawn chairs back there. (For this poll we'll assume that option is figurative.)

    Here's your chance to weigh in on the decision.
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    Last edited by BobJ; 01-25-2019 at 08:52 AM.

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    No option for coolness?

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    That would be under "Yes!"

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    How hard is it to pull to test it out? If you still want the cool look for future formal events just put it back.

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    It's unstayed so it *should* be pretty easy. But there's some corrosion under there, stainless bolts going through aluminum castings, etc. I have a hunch that once I get it out I'll be slow to put it back.

    So I'm doing the easier thing first - I'm taking a poll!

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    Iíd suggest that you really havenít had enough experience with the mizzen yet to decide. Iíve never owned a yawl (or ketch), but Iíve had boats that had features that were new to me or that I didnít fully understand. Iíve learned to live with them until they reveal more about themselves. Carl designed that boat to be a yawl. I think you just need more time to get to know her.

    Tom

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    Bob, not sure about the original building intent on sail balance, but it seems like a larger main (maybe more roach or square top) could makeup the lost sail area with less hassle. Not sure how it would effect weather/lee helm. Also if you are more inclined to cruising great place for dinghy, and if you are really wild how about a hot tub?

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    They built eight of this version and two of them were sloops. The boom was a bit longer on the sloops but everything else was the same.

    The hot tub would be flash - but I'm thinking about how to do an e-rudder with all that back there.

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    You mean like an internal fold down or push down erudder? That would be really cool and keep the stern clean. I guess you could make some kind of a water trunk like some of the small sailboat outboard boxes. How much room do you have back there?

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    The lazarette is huge - I could rent it out separately on Air B&B. But I don't want a lot of weight back there nor do I want a big hole in the bottom of the boat.

    What I meant by "all that back there" is the mizzen boom, etc. which overhang the stern. I could probably install an e-rudder but that stuff would be in the way.

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