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    Quote Originally Posted by GBR3068 View Post
    >> Actually, what I have found helps is to significantly pad the NMEA 2K input so that the "noise" from the windex data stream and mast tip gyration induced variables are minimized.

    David: I have a similar setup: B&G Zeus3 MFD with 0183 to Pelagic, as follows (https://cache.tradeinn.com/images/pd...nu_zeus3.pdf):

    4 NMEA 0183 RX_B (orange)
    5 NMEA 0183 RX_A (green)
    6 NMEA 0183 TX_B (blue)
    7 NMEA 0183 TX_A (yellow)

    and the Pelagic with inputs as follows (https://www.westsail.org/resources/m...20R66%20.pdf):

    "Connect the small Green (+) and Black (-) wires from the Drive box to your NMEA output, using OUT+ and OUT- on your NMEA output port. Note various manufactures may use slightly different terms for the NMEA0183 inputs and outputs."

    So…

    1. When you say "pad" the NMEA 2k input, you mean (a) "pad" as in resistor attenuator?? (b) is your NMEA 2k somehow also connected to the Pelagic 0183 through an NMEA converter? (c) The wind data raw from a B&G is in fact 0183 (I believe) and converted to 2k though the little B&G inline box (for the wired sensor version), are you somehow getting direct to the B&G 0183? (that is is my goal).

    2. Did you look at the B&G 0183 output and what does it look like? whats the voltage swing?

    3. Just as a check, what is connected to what in your setup? (A or +) B& TX_A (yellow) to Pelagic Green (+) (B or -) B&G TX_B (blue) to Pelagic Black (-)?

    4. I *think* / *believe* B&G will only output MWV on 0183. I *think* / *believe* Pelagic takes VWR and MWV? Have you checked your sentences? I dont have the capability to, but think I probably need to, help/advice appreciated.
    Hi Mike -
    it sounds like we are essentially talking about the same set up - I am taking the 0183 output direct from the Zeus 3.
    I am not running any 0183 input to the MFD, everything except the pelagic runs on a NMEA 2K backbone.

    1. What I am referring to is damping the sensor input (lowering the sensitivity / response) on the 2K sensor. This seems to have a sympathetic effect on the 0183 output.
    2. No, I have not gone that deep
    3. B (from memory, which is not infallable)
    4. yes, I have, but it's been several years and on my other boat; this seems to work so I haven't dived in that deep this time. I have reduced the amount data output on the 0183 network to just apparent and true wind, which can be done on the Zeus 3... It's several submenus down; reducing the sentences sent seems to increase the odds of the pelagic reading them correctly.

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    Thanks! That really helps. I may be over to poke around if I have a problem, you have the same setup as I do. You're welcome to do the same if you ever need to. I love the SSS and this forum, saved me soo much time.

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    All of the above notwithstanding...
    To be clear, I use wind mode very sparingly...
    For the most part I prefer to run things in gyro compensated compass mode, with the gain regulating the ratio, and adjust trim as appropriate.
    DH

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