New Boat 4 Sled

[sleddog]

Don't know the answer but I like the idea of extra credit. Makes me think "extra ice cream".
That must be Tom P up there in Port Townsend, getting ready to go north? What? No photos?
Re: water ballast. Will this do away w the need for hungry crew leaning over the lifelines? No crew needed,no matching jackets?

Good one! Yes, Tom P. (DAZZLER) is in PT, working on 65' MV DELPHINUS II, which is parked just feet away from TALLY HO...Tom was there for the recent launch of WESTERN FLYER and sent attached photo. And yes, water ballast does away with need of rail meat hiking except when short tacking up the City Front..Water ballast usually takes 5-10 minutes to shift sides.



Here's a pic I took of WF some years back. There were barnacles on the radome!

[Howard Spruit]

green is not my favorite color, and I have the traditional sailors dislike for stink pots, but Western Flyer, in her current condition is a GOOD LOOKING BOAT!
Congratulations to all those that participated in her recovery.

[solosailor]

What does BLUE have onboard in common with the recent winner of the R2AK, TEAM PURE and WILD?

Jonathan McKee

[Howard Spruit]

for those that asked for My dirt boat project report.
July 2022 Mini Skeeter report;

Trailer, boat and gear box complete and loaded.
Trailer hitch installed on Van and camping gear being assembled.
The maiden event will be at Mendocino Counties dry lake Mirage in early August.

[sleddog]

As voiced before, the folks playing with the algorithms at Yellow Brick Tracker are smoking some pretty strong weed these days...Their looking at average speed to date, YB have been predicting BobJ on SURPRISE! and FOAMY will finish in >21 days, IO in 17 days, KYNNTANA in >25 days, and 12-WINDED SKY in >26. If this joke was based on any reality, a majority of the fleet will be running out of food, water, patience, and the time limit. Don't go canceling your plane reservations just yet. The trades are filling in for the fleet and they will have good daily runs for the remainder of the race. SURPRISE! should finish in ~16 days total, and all the other Monday and Tuesday starters are about to get a good push also.

Yellow Brick, stop all your fancy and expensive foolishness. Unfamiliar PacCup followers may believe what you publish.

Can a Moore 24 make a daily 24 hour run in excess of 200 miles? We may get to find out.

[solosailor]

Can a Moore 24 make a daily 24 hour run in excess of 200 miles?

I'd say easily.

[Ian Rogers]

A Moore 24 can easily make a 200 mile day. In fact they can do about 20% more than that. In 2016 after a partially windy night Mark and I had the habit of guessing our 8 am to 8 am run. On the 8th day we were both well off, we had Chinese Gybe the night before with the a2.5 on the pole and spent some time under a winged out #3. We recovered well be we both knew it had impacted our 24 hour run. Mark guessed 206 miles, in typical price is right style I guessed 207. Well we were both well off the that morning, we had pushed Mas! to a 240 mile day. I was in disbelief and checked it twice. Sailing the Moore at a 10 knot average is possible you just need a windy year and a good swell.

[sleddog]

A Moore 24 can easily make a 200 mile day. In fact they can do about 20% more than that. In 2016 after a partially windy night Mark and I had the habit of guessing our 8 am to 8 am run. On the 6th day we were both well off, we had Chinese Gybe the night before with the a2.5 on the pole and spent some time under a winged out #3. We recovered well be we both knew it had impacted our 24 hour run. Mark guessed 206 miles, in typical price is right style I guessed 207. Well we were both well off the that morning, we had pushed Mas! to a 240 mile day. I was in disbelief and checked it twice. Sailing the Moore at a 10 knot average is possible you just need a windy year and a good swell.

Wow, Ian. Thanks for this highlight. 240 miles in 24 hours is good for even a SC-50. Not sure a Cal 40 could ever do that. Way back in the early days of the Pac Cup, 1984, when no one thought racing a small ULDB across an ocean was sane, Jonathan Livingston and Gary Clifford sailed LIGHTEN UP, their Express-27, to a supposed 260 mile day under storm jib and double reefed main. If you haven't read their account, or heard the tape, it is EPIC in only Birdman style: http://express27.org/articles/squallbusters 1,100 miles in the first 4 days? I still have my Squall Busters T-Shirt which were a hot item post race at KYC.

[Ian Rogers]

I have read that account, its a great story. I have great memories of Birdman during happyhour on the SSB in the 2000 race.

I pulled up my log from 2016 we had the following daily runs:
Day 1 157 miles (this is a short day, we started at 10 am, so its 22 hr)
Day 2 171 miles
Day 3 190 miles
Day 4 200 miles
Day 5 202 miles
Day 6 203 miles
Day 7 187 miles
Day 8 240 miles
Day 9 208 miles
Day 10 208 miles
last day 145 miles (finished in the dark and sailed to the bulkhead)

[sleddog]

I have read that account, its a great story. I have great memories of Birdman during happyhour on the SSB in the 2000 race.

I pulled up my log from 2016 we had the following daily runs:
Day 1 157 miles (this is a short day, we started at 10 am, so its 22 hr)
Day 2 171 miles
Day 3 190 miles
Day 4 200 miles
Day 5 202 miles
Day 6 203 miles
Day 7 187 miles
Day 8 240 miles
Day 9 208 miles
Day 10 208 miles
last day 145 miles (finished in the dark and sailed to the bulkhead)

Disregarding the first and last short days, your Moore-24 MAS! averaged 201 miles on her record passage of winning the Pac Cup overall. Speaking for the Forum, we stand in awe of this accomplishment.

An historical note: In 1949, my father was crew and weatherman aboard the 98 foot schooner MORNING STAR in the Honolulu Race. Using the "Reverse S" course which my father helped pioneer, MORNING STAR broke the elapsed time record, setting a new standard of 10 days 10 hours. The press and other crews called this an "unbreakable record." Ian and Mark's 2016 elapsed time on MAS! was 10 days, 14 hours, only 4 hours longer than MORNING STAR's unbreakable record 67 years earlier.