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    Default Rat poison follies

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    If you are not yet aware of them, this group is strong and may be of help with the rat poison problem.
    https://www.raptorsarethesolution.org/

    They were contacted when a whole group of Great horn Owl chicks died locally at the Sweet Springs Reserve and their research traced the deaths to some rat poison boxes like those in your pictures which were put out in a local trailer park. RATS was able to bring pressure to bear and the placement of the boxes has been supposedly curtailed.

    You might not be surprised to hear the opinions of my better half (who worked for years at a raptor rehab facility in Indio, CA) about the terrible damage these "better living through chemistry" solutions do to the entire food chain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAGICdreamer View Post
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    If you are not yet aware of them, this group is strong and may be of help with the rat poison problem.
    https://www.raptorsarethesolution.org/
    They were contacted when a whole group of Great horn Owl chicks died locally at the Sweet Springs Reserve and their research traced the deaths to some rat poison boxes like those in your pictures which were put out in a local trailer park. RATS was able to bring pressure to bear and the placement of the boxes has been supposedly curtailed.
    You might not be surprised to hear the opinions of my better half (who worked for years at a raptor rehab facility in Indio, CA) about the terrible damage these "better living through chemistry" solutions do to the entire food chain...
    Hi Dreamers,

    The current Catch 22 would be humorous if it weren't so potentially deadly for RYC's neighbors of hawks, owls, feral cats, fox, coyote, and "Lee" and "Eileen" the resident osprey. RYC's management claims the multiple rat poison boxes are effective, and harmless to wildlife and birds. I have been told to take any questions to Orkin. In 4 calls to Orkin, Orkin management has verbally repeated to me they "will not answer my questions as I am not the customer."

    Thanks to TP and others, we have proof what anti-coagulant rodenticide are in the RYC boxes, and it is the bad stuff indeed, Diphacinone and Bromadiolone with Lumitrak. Bromadiolone is unequivocally cited in 2021 CA state law AB 1788 as being illegal (https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...01920200AB1788), and Diphacinone is only legal through a known loophole. As well, raptors and owls are protected species under both the Federal Migratory Bird Treaty Act, part 703, and Cal State Code 3503.3. If you are poisoning their food, you are not protecting the species!

    What would be a really cool thing is if RYC's membership agreed to nix the expensive poison and substitute owl boxes for rodenticide poisoned bait boxes. Thanks to any and all who would like to make their opinions known on this site as have MAGICdreamers.

    PS: What is "Lumitrack" in the Bromadiolone poison? Bell Labs had recently made it so rats who eat the Bromadiolone with phosphors added will have the indignity of their turds glowing bright green under UV or Black Light so one can follow where they go to slowly die. Lovely.
    Last edited by sleddog; 07-26-2021 at 06:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daydreamer View Post
    Unfortunately I don't have any after photos.
    Here's one of several "during" photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleddog View Post
    Hi Dreamers,

    The current Catch 22 would be humorous if it weren't so potentially deadly for RYC's neighbors of hawks, owls, feral cats, fox, coyote, and "Lee" and "Eileen" the resident osprey. RYC's management claims the multiple rat poison boxes are effective, and harmless to wildlife and birds. I have been told to take any questions to Orkin. In 4 calls to Orkin, Orkin management has verbally repeated to me they "will not answer my questions as I am not the customer."

    Thanks to TP and others, we have proof what anti-coagulant rodenticide are in the RYC boxes, and it is the bad stuff indeed, Diphacinone and Bromadiolone with Lumitrak. Bromadiolone is unequivocally cited in 2021 CA state law AB 1788 as being illegal (https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...01920200AB1788), and Diphacinone is only legal through a known loophole. As well, raptors and owls are protected species under both the Federal Migratory Bird Treaty Act, part 703, and Cal State Code 3503.3. If you are poisoning their food, you are not protecting the species!

    What would be a really cool thing is if RYC's membership agreed to nix the expensive poison and substitute owl boxes for rodenticide poisoned bait boxes. Thanks to any and all who would like to make their opinions known on this site as have MAGICdreamers.

    PS: What is "Lumitrack" in the Bromadiolone poison? Bell Labs had recently made it so rats who eat the Bromadiolone with phosphors added will have the indignity of their turds glowing bright green under UV or Black Light so one can follow where they go to slowly die. Lovely.

    Good news. After being apprised of the illegality of using second generation anti-coagulant on RYC property, RYC management has done the right thing and advised ORKIN to remove their approximate 10 bait boxes from yacht club property immediately. This is good news indeed for local birds and wildlife and will remove RYC from legal jeopardy. Orkin is in violation of CA AB1788 using second generation anti-coagulents a full 7 months after their ban.

    1600 hrs. Boxes removed!
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