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    Regarding the Soberanes Fire, I've had good reason to be tracking it very closely: my brother lives in Palo Colorado Canyon and was required to evacuate late Friday night July 22, over a week ago. Their home was in the direct path of the fire. The good news is that their home has not burned. But, the forecast for when they can return is not until full containment: August 31. Unlike many, they had a place to go. Our recently diseased parent's home is in Carmel Highlands and was vacant. Ironically, the Highlands came under an evacuation warning within 24 hour of their arrival. That warning was lifted on Friday. My brother reports that Carmel Highlands is now smoke free.

    For anyone planning a vacation to the Monterey Peninsula, the tourist related business are really suffering. All the parks are closed, including Point Lobos, but the Monterey Bay Aquarium is open, and there's still lots to do including whale watching, kayaking on Monterey Bay and Elkhorn Slough, and of course world-class scuba diving.

    The fire will not end soon. The forecast is that it may increase in size to 170,000 acres before it's done. There are presently over 5,000 people involved in fighting this fire. This is BIG.

    Tom P.

    Sunday AM Update: The wind was from the south-east overnight pushing lots of smoke toward Carmel. The fire fighters are saying "expect more smoke today" as they are setting back burns.
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    Hopefully the marine layer that made it upriver to Benicia last night is also well inland below Monterey and cooling things down. Best hopes and wishes to your brother, Tom, and to the 5,000+ firefighters working this huge fire.

    My dad and I first met Lester Stone aboard his 33'er SCAMP at the Alameda Marina, in about 1970. SCAMP was built in 1967, a sistership to LITTLE PACKET, which had been built in 1959 for Christopher Jenkes, then Commodore of the St. Francis Yacht Club. SCAMP was at least the fourth boat built for Mr. Stone by his own yard. His previous boat, VAYA was built in 1955 and was sailing on the Bay when I was a kid. I also remember seeing ROWENA, a 1964 build from the Stone yard. The list of boats from the Stone yards is extensive and includes six Yankee OD's including FLAME (see earlier in Skip's thread) and four Bird Class boats:

    Stone Boat Yard history

    All this nostalgia caused me to revisit the current listing for LITTLE PACKET. Yes, you can buy an original Stone-designed and built boat! It's at Berkeley Marina and looks to be in good shape, having been refastened in 2005:

    http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1958...s#.V54gSvkrLIU
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    Bob,
    Through involvement with the Oakand Museum, we have gotten to know Roberta Stone O'Grady, granddaughter of W. F. Stone and niece of Lester F. Stone. Roberta lives in Alameda and is very proud of her family history.

    I sailed on ROWENA with her original owner, Don Dalziel. A memorable event was the 1974 CCA New Year's Eve raft up in Clipper Cove with the schooner YANKEE along one side. Don's next boat was NATOMA, one of the last boats built at the Stone Boat Yard.

    I have been surprised that LITTLE PACKET has been on the market for so long. She is quite lovely in her own way.

    Tom P.
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    Since the linked list of Stone-built boats includes their documentation numbers, we're able to search the vessel documentation database for them. VAYA and ROWENA are no longer current but NATOMA is. She is owned by Hubert Coalson in NC and shows a Los Angeles hailing port. ROWENA's documentation was last issued in 2004 with a San Francisco hailing port.

    All this reminiscing sent me to the shelf for my copy of Diane Beeston's "Of Wind, Fog and Sail." Stone-built boats are well represented in its pages.

    It's hard to say why LITTLE PACKET hasn't sold. I'd guess mostly her age and wood construction, but also the Atomic Four and in my case, the little wheel. Sure, if she just had a tiller I'd be all over it!

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    Serendipity is an odd thing...
    10 years ago, when I first moved to Alameda after my 2nd stint in Santa Cruz, Naomi (famously not a "boat person") fell in love with the weathered sign for the recently closed Stone Boat Yard. Just liked the look of it.

    So much so that she dragged a professional photographer friend [notably from Santa Cruz] round to Blanding street one evening insisting that it be documented...
    the resulting framed print, attached here, has lived at various places in our house ever since.

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    Thanks for the history!

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    Thanks for the Stone Boat Yard history.

    Here's another piece of history: What semi-famous ocean race starts south of the flagpole of this building in this 1911 photo?

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    That's a photo of the Corinthian YC, Tiburon. Semi-famous race starts there is the SSS Singlehanded Transpac.

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    Was the pin end massively favored back then too? It wasn't that day (see the flags).

    And what's with this "semi-famous" bit? I'd say hugely famous - even EPIC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobJ View Post
    Since the linked list of Stone-built boats includes their documentation numbers, we're able to search the vessel documentation database for them. ROWENA's documentation was last issued in 2004 with a San Francisco hailing port.

    It's hard to say why LITTLE PACKET hasn't sold. I'd guess mostly her age and wood construction, but also the Atomic Four and in my case, the little wheel. Sure, if she just had a tiller I'd be all over it!
    Bob,
    Not long ago, ROWENA was for sale in Newport, CA. The photos are worth a look.
    http://placeaboat.com/ad/1963-philip...-custom-cutter.

    With regard to LITTLE PACKET, you sound interested? It could make a great family boat. All boat prices are negotiable, and you'd have a bit of history. At the right price, you could put in a diesel. And, as for that "little wheel," there are some real advantages to geared steering (not sure if in this case it's rack and pinion of worm gear). You know what it's like to let go of the tiller for even a moment with that squirrelly balanced spade rudder on RAGS? Well, with L'll PACKET's full keel, attached rudder and geared steering, you need not worry about constantly tending the helm. Leave the helm, go walk around and leasurly come back and she will take care of you.

    And, as for owning a wooden boat (from someone who has been there) it's way cheaper than a therapist.

    Just saying...

    Tom P.

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    I too, quickly recognized the Corintian YC. it's interesting how much in that photo still exists. I had a (very) brief part-time job there in the spring of my last year of high school. For two afternoons I did general maintenance and cleaning. I distinctly remember the smell of the bar. By the third afternoon, I think I'd worked too fast, because the manager was running out of things for me to do. He sent me to the kitchen where I was introduced to a scrub brush, a box of Spic-N-Span and pots that where almost big enough to climb into. I quickly decided that his was not what I wanted to be doing and told the manager just that. I don't think I was fired; I quit.

    I left the CYC and walked down Main Street to mid-block where there was a little sailing school called The Sailing Center of Tiburon with only one boat: an S&S designed Rainbow sloop. I walked in and convinced the owner that he should hire me to teach sailing, and he did. The job lasted through the summer, and at 18 I got paid to sit on the back of the boat and tell adults what to do.

    I've told my grown children that it's good to have some jobs to learn what you don't want to do, and that often making a bold change will workout for the best.

    Tom P.
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